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Posted - 2016.07.17 01:33:00 -
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Parious MeHoff wrote:The problem isn't that my employer gave me paperwork to file, it is that in this age of high tech holographic displays, Ms. Priano gave me paperwork on... well... paper.
Alizabeth, I have transferred 10 isk to your account as per our arrangement, but I do feel we need to talk about the specifics of future bets at some point. I know people who torture for a living who call that sadistic and evil |

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Posted - 2016.07.17 13:58:34 -
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iyammarrok wrote:The often lauded as heroic acts at the armour forge never cease to amaze me. Not for the fact that they worked, but for how staged the whole affair appeared.
Had the home guard been competent on that day, given that there were snipers and heavy ordnance on site, they may have temporarily made a martyr out of him, though once his dragonaur allegiance became public knowledge, his support would likely have waned. They would have saved the Caldari people a lot of grief in the process however.
I remain certain that without Heth's rise and aggression, Caldari Prime would still have, sooner or later, been transferred back to at least it's current partial Caldari control, without the need for a titan sized crater in the surface.
It is also worth noting, that Malkalen would likely not have happened without Heth's rise to power, as there would not have had to be such a hastily arranged and visible process had it not been in response to the public call to arms made by heth at the time.
-Tertianus Rethelior. An interesting perspective that I never thought of but Kim will most certainly dismiss |

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Posted - 2016.07.17 23:03:17 -
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iyammarrok wrote:Slayer Liberator wrote: An interesting perspective that I never thought of but Kim will most certainly dismiss
She publicly supports the Dragonaur and has petitioned the CEP on more than one occasion to remove their terrorist status. Her dismissal means little. -Tertianus Rethelior You're right |

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Posted - 2016.07.19 15:52:44 -
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Natheniel wrote:What the hell? How is this thread not filled with Diana Kim and it has Heth in the damn title! Must have been clonejacked |

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Posted - 2016.07.19 15:54:56 -
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Claudia Osyn wrote:Diana Kim wrote:Maybe he did also some questioning actions and some of his decisions were suboptimal, and I myself highly disagree with what he did in couple of situations... Is this admission of Heth's imperfection?! Kimmy, I'm shocked! How dare you insinuate that the greatest Caldari Hero isn't flawless. This propaganda should not be allowed to stand, you Gallente lapdog! If you wish to restore your honor as Caldari you will need to duel Heth's champion, Diana Ki-....... well, ****. I guess you'll just have to drink the tea. This confirms it 100% |

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Posted - 2016.07.20 12:44:46 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Loki Vaako wrote:I think it's easy to condemn people when they die. Rightly or Wrongly Tibus Heth unified the entire Caldari State to a single purpose - War against the Gallente.
If he had plans to deal with the situation afterward is a moot point since it didn't happen.
What he should be remembered for is that one man unified all of the Caldari People for that purpose.
He didn't fight for personal glory or honor but for the people, from the most powerful CEO to the waiters in the cafe's. He should be remembered for that. Thank you, Sir. However, I would like to add a small correction. Tibus Heth has unified the entire Caldari State not just for War against Gallente, but to liberate our Home planet - Caldari Prime. After the planet was liberated, he has actually contacted Federals and signed the treaty with Gallente President, it was Souro Foiritan back then. The war what we are fighting today is a gallente initiative, that revolves around Black Rise - a region we have colonized in secrecy, and gallenteans wanted to lay their claims on it... with their weapons. As for the treaty that Foiritan has signed with Heth, it was violated of course... by gallenteans, of course. In YC115 with their 'Operation Highlander', when they smuggled clone soldiers to Caldari Prime and attempted to occupy our home world once again. Thanks to our own valiant ground troops the invasion was halted, but for now about half of our planet is still in enemy's hands. I am sure that while Heth unified the Caldari it should not have been for an eternal pendulum war but for peace and it was a rouge admiral who killed Gariushi not the Gallente |

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Posted - 2016.07.22 19:34:08 -
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Diana Kim wrote:Mika Firestorm wrote:Diana Kim wrote: I am also pleasantly surprised you have defended Tibus Heth.
I didn't defend Heth. And I dislike the guy. Also I dislike the guy who twisted historical facts because of guy he disliked. And I disliked him for this. I have defended the history. As for Heth himself... I believe he was not suitable for management. Oh, and please, just don't start that I insult him or something like that. I am not going to question his "heroic" deeds, that you so love to cite, nor going to call him names or make up stuff about him. This is just my opinion, that he, while was defending and establishing meritocracy in the State was lacking merit to rule himself. His rhetoric was that "only merited shall rule". But he got his position not himself, not by his merits. He was appointed and pushed by others. How dare you tell it wasn't meritocratic!! Maybe he didn't get the position himself, but he was raised by others because of his merits. Whole Chief Executive Panel, consisting of all the CEO of Caldari State megacorporations has named him the Executor. He was Sobaseki of our era. Mika Firestorm wrote: Who would they be, I don't know. Maybe, someone from CEP. But maybe someone even from the other side of the trenches. Have you ever thought, that name Xavier Black sounds suspiciously gallentean? While Tibus Heth was raising the State to war against Federation, was capturing (Im sorry, liberating...) planets, someone on the other side was raising in power and getting authorities they would never be able to achieve without Heth.
Have you thought, that without Heth people like Mentas Blaque wouldn't get his Black Eagles going? He almost turned now the Federation into police state, where his peoples can drag peoples away and even kill them without trial. You don't even have to fight against the Federation open to be dragged by them, you just need to say something good about Caldari, and you will be marked only for that. They even have power to read and listen your private communication going through Federal networks they have access to. And while officially Federation claims to be all about freedom, I don't think I can name where your thoughts will be controlled harder than there.
This all became possible only because someone pushed Heth to a position of authority in the State. Now, what would you think, who could it be?
Your idea is revolting! I believe though someone from the CEP could have helped him. Revolting to you maybe but that doesn't rule it out completely |

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Posted - 2016.07.23 14:59:04 -
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Mika Firestorm wrote:Oh, dear...
But okay, since we are talking about gallente conspiracies, how about another one. A hypothesis, of course. Think about it, who would be this mysterious Xavier Black? Xavier is obvious gallente name, but Black? Do you know, how the word 'black' sound on gallentean? It is 'noir'. Do you think it is a coincidence that Federal Admiral had the same surname?
What if it was our old man Alexander all the time? Could be |

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Posted - 2016.07.23 20:24:33 -
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Nitshe Razvedka wrote:This is just the time to announce the planning phase of the TIBUS HETH official Empire Monument. The planning committee is at odds as to where to site the structure. We throw it open to the public for suggestions. How about the core |

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Posted - 2016.07.24 13:59:51 -
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Tarek Raimo wrote:Nitshe Razvedka wrote: However, if we placed a translucent statue of Heth at the polar north of a neutron star, pulsar beams of electromagnetic radiation would send his giant image light-years across the universe.
I support this proposal. The whole cluster can use a constant reminder of where extreme nationalism and bigotry can lead. Tibus Heth would serve perfectly for that purpose. I second this proposal |
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